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danielpataki says:
I've seem this in the forums, but the big thread has been closed due to lack of responses. I want to start this again, maybe if enough people cast their vote the awesome people developing RTM will consider it.

I need nested lists because I simply have a LOT of sublists in my organization. Here's an example: I am promoting multiple blogs, and am writing many e-books, tied to different blogs. My big project would be "BLOG A". A subproject that is "E-book" would be needed, because that is still HUGE. I could group these with tags, but if I also have an E-book for blog B that will get confusing.

Yes, you can use smart search and smart lists to get around this, I just feel it would be much easier. You could also have the option to turn this on and off, to declutter the interface.

If turned on, when you click on a list, it will show its sublists in blue for example in a row underneath the main lists. Other main lists can be hidden while this is happening.

If you turn off sublists and you have sublists, either all the tasks could fall under the main list, or sub lists could be brought to the front and shown as main lists.

I am using RTM because it is simply the best, but I have been experimenting with others because of the lack of this feature (so far no app came even close)

Cheers to you guys, thanks for listening
Posted at 4:28pm on November 28, 2007
tobor0 says:
I absolutely agree that this feature is required.
Posted 8 years ago
dberglind says:
I am new here and have searched and see that this has been requested numerous times, but I too need to add my support to this idea.

I have "tasks" and I have "projects". I would really like to be able to list my tasks for each project in a nested list.

I know it has been suggested that I could use "lists" for the projects, but with the organizational system that I use, it just doesn't work out quite right.
Posted 8 years ago
nash.ogden says:
Absolutely a must have.
Posted 8 years ago
deterb says:
You can grab a url for a smart list by going to the atom feed and changing the word 'atom' to 'home' in the url, but being able to automate this would be helpful.
Posted 8 years ago
bostont66 says:
This would be a great feature that I would love to have also
Posted 8 years ago
dmd1272 says:
agree
Posted 8 years ago
dessner says:
I think it is so important, I would pay for a pro account for this feature
Posted 8 years ago
mburer says:
I also think this is a great idea. Essentially I have projects within projects, so I need lists within lists.
Posted 8 years ago
cainmark says:
Still hoping for this.
Posted 8 years ago
jamezzz says:
Agreed. Perfect candidate for a Pro feature.
Posted 8 years ago
fransn says:
Vote for this!!
Posted 8 years ago
lefnire says:
gotta say, much needed. I'm moving to MindMeister until RTM has sublists.
Posted 8 years ago
raymond.bergmark Power Poster says:
Well, considering the number of people requesting sublists, I'm surprised that most haven't realized that Firefox+GreaseMonkey already makes this possible.

My present tag cloud at work, where I have hidden the private tags:


The three projects at the bottom (p01, p02 and p03) all have sublists, works well.
Posted 8 years ago
bzpilman says:
When thinking smart(lists), sublists make a lot of sense
I've always thought how cool it would be to have dropdowns, but then these dropdowns could be lists themselves (the parent lists) and everyone would be pleased :)

For the simpler cases, rajjan, our pumped up tag cloud does fine, but when you talk smartlists there's nowhere to run.
Bottom line is, sublists are already a reality for tags, lists and locations, but not for smartlists (unless you could stick a smartlist to your tagcloud). And smartlists bring the indecent possibilities.
Posted 8 years ago
derek.conjar says:
I have a tag cloud like Rajjan, but I'm still getting it all pimped out. I also use RTM Enhanced to reformat RTM so it's easier to use, and I use another script to keep the task cloud in view at all times.

I do agree that sublists are a good idea. I'd have to say that drag-and-drop reordering and dependent tasks are more important to me, though.
Posted 8 years ago
crace says:
I would love to have sub-lists. Yeah, it's possible to use all sorts of crazy tasks and smart lists to do this, but when it comes down to it, sub-lists would just be easier!

Would definitely make implementing GTD easier for me, since I'm using a list name as a project name. If there are sub-lists, I can then create sub-projects easily.
Posted 8 years ago
teresa.amar says:
+1
Posted 8 years ago
dustinaskins says:
Another vote for this feature. I loved Todoist's nesting. I've tried multiple lists using RTM but I hate how rows of list tabs stack. If Im going to have tabs stack I'd rather have parent list tabs on top and sub list tabs on bottom.

One application of nested lists I like the most. A parent list of "Home" with nested lists for each room in the house ("Bedroom", "Living Room", etc.) and then tasks for each room within the room's list.
Posted 8 years ago
pijnappel says:
+1!
Posted 8 years ago
bdeitric says:
+1
Posted 8 years ago
joseph.gruber says:
++++
Posted 8 years ago
navigator_x2 says:
100% agree this is needed... if it wasn't for the increased google integration I'd stick with Todoist as I prefer the sub task design. If the integration increases I'm switching back. Keep the masses happy and sort this out.
Posted 8 years ago
nir.ofry says:
I really need this feature. I think it is the base of the "next action" idea (of GTD)
Posted 8 years ago
andrewmin says:
+1 for the idea.
Posted 8 years ago
charliebeldon says:
+1
Posted 8 years ago
john.hollier says:
As a consultant with mulitiple clients and often multiple projects for a single client I could definitely use this feature to keep the projects as sublists under a main client list - and if it was only available as a Pro feature I would upgrade.
Posted 8 years ago
rolandgiesler says:
I agree with this being a need that should be implimented as a high priority.
Posted 8 years ago
douglas.mercer says:
I'd like sublists, or something equivalent
Posted 7 years ago
dsunderhaft says:
Would love to see this feature as well!
Posted 7 years ago
stega says:
+1
Posted 7 years ago
flanakin says:
-1... Personally, I prefer tags. If this could be implemented without sacrificing simplicity, then that's one thing, but I would rather just not see it at all.
Posted 7 years ago
jkissoon says:
now that google tasks (otherwise inferior to RTM) comes with nested tasks RTM really need to take this request seriously. This could be a make or break feature. Please RTM reconsider!
Posted 7 years ago
thepauly says:
Would it not be possible to make sublists an option to placate those of us who need them and those who want to maintain the simplicity of the interface?

I'll name my firstborn RTM if you add this function*.

*Not a legally binding contract.
Posted 7 years ago
fish_guts says:
Absolutely needed -_-

(don't really know if this thread is still followed tough)
Posted 7 years ago
dan.julian says:
I'm adding my +1. Is there a good reason this can't be added? If so, I'll stop asking or adding my +1 to these.
Posted 7 years ago
jeff.rhine says:
dan.julian,

Here are links to a few posts (please see emily's comments) as to why it may not be added (or at least why it may not be added in the next week/6 months/year/etc.):

http://www.rememberthemilk.com/forums/help/6751/
http://www.rememberthemilk.com/forums/ideas/1582/
http://www.rememberthemilk.com/forums/help/6629/

Hope that helps.
Posted 7 years ago
laurin1 says:
I wrote a ticketing system for my org and I created the ability for each ticket to have children. It's really very simple. Every ticket has a parent_id field. Every ticket can only have one parent, but in effect, each ticket can have unlimited children this way. It works great.

I would love to see this implemented.
Posted 7 years ago
william.mackintosh says:
I am really impressed by RTM. However, the lack of sublists is a great shame.
Posted 7 years ago
rtakes says:
Sublists would be great
Posted 7 years ago
ryan.hyde says:
fully agreed
Posted 7 years ago
hmbrazil says:
Agreed!
Posted 7 years ago
marc.garcia.marti says:
Hey rajjan,

could you share your RTM knowledge off Forum with me? I've come to a deadpoint in my rtm implementation even though I have set up my coloured task cloud and so on. Do you have by any chance a blog about your settings published somewhere in the net?

Thanks in advance,
Posted 7 years ago
smile.syban says:
+1
Posted 7 years ago
ankue says:
+100 ;)
Posted 7 years ago
danielcabreratoyos says:
+1
Posted 7 years ago
erichkist says:
+100
Posted 6 years ago
raguza says:
Absolutely needed feature
Posted 6 years ago
minim_c says:
Please!
Posted 6 years ago
idealb2bsolutions says:
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!
Posted 6 years ago
dominic.spachmann says:
and once again: yes!
Posted 6 years ago
margali13 says:
I agree that sublists would make using RTM SOOOOO much more awesome. I use smartlists for that now, but it is certainly not ideal. But other things about RTM are so great, so hopefully if you add this it'll be simply perfect
Posted 6 years ago
snaggletooth says:
+1
Posted 5 years ago
jasonwhit says:
I'd like them too!
Posted 5 years ago
vmegen says:
+1! Would be an awesome feature.
Posted 5 years ago
silverg3 says:
please add sublists! :)
Posted 5 years ago
fouadsader says:
I totally agree with adding sub-lists, however it should be an option that could be turned on or off, since some people dont particularly favor them. For my requirements, so far, tagging isn't enough.

++++1 Sublist
Posted 5 years ago
nuvishu says:
+1
Posted 5 years ago
jeff.vautin says:
+1
Posted 5 years ago
tankeev says:
+1
I need it sooooo much. Or maybe project-oriented tasks.
Posted 5 years ago
hanno.stock says:
+1

the tabbed lists interface gets cluttered fast!

Think of it as "files of lists" if you want to use a simple metaphor. That level of hierarchy I can even get using pen and paper. It is quite unintuitive that using a computer based system I loose that possibility.
Posted 5 years ago
nicolassacre says:
+1
Posted 5 years ago
mtt says:
yes, please
Posted 5 years ago
frejo says:
+1
Posted 5 years ago
erinjeffreys says:
+ 1
Posted 5 years ago
kmninbox says:
I was a pro member once... but it's been over a year with some popular requests such as these, and I see no development or progress towards anything more than last years RTM.

Though RTM has a few functions I find very useful, particularly when used with a mobile device, ie syncing, smartlists, location/nearby, & smart task adding from many different sources and devices... imo it becomes very difficult to organize and keeping track of tasks and lists when you start having many tasks and lists over a longer period of time.

But RTM seems to have so much potential to be powerful and flexible for organizing all the tasks in my life.. but perhaps RTM really is just for...remembering tasks such as remember to buy the milk.

I need sublists,

and/or an easier way to make lists in general, maybe something right on the tasks page, instead of needing to go into settings each time to create, edit, or delete lists, maybe drag and drop too.

I completely agree the tabbed lists interface easily gets too cluttered. Really discourages me from using it at all in the long run...

Also maybe when you make a smartlist, it would pull the tasks out of the inbox, to keep the inbox uncluttered so that you can review and consider straggler tasks that don't belong in any grouping. As it is, when solely relying on smartlist, the inbox is exactly like the all tasks lists, and after a week of adding tasks to RTM, who really wants to go back through 200+ tasks in the inbox to make sure i've properly organized all my tasks... especially when making a list isn't even that easy to do. If you
Posted 5 years ago
dimitor says:
+1
Posted 5 years ago
gwhome says:
and again a +1 +1 from a newbie.
Posted 5 years ago
bcrem says:
Hey! RTM! HOW can you not have sublists??? What, is it somehow impossible with your current design? Would you need to completely refactor the entire site? Did Bob T. Monkey have a bad experience with a sublist as a child?

WAKE UP! Implement sublists!

(please.)
Posted 5 years ago
dgsink says:
This would be awesome - lots of lists are nice, but so often I have categories that need sublists and it would be so much cleaner to be able to do this.
Posted 5 years ago
fmaida says:
+1
Posted 5 years ago
metaloop says:
+1
Posted 5 years ago
gstiebler says:
+1
Posted 5 years ago
richalbin says:
+1
Posted 5 years ago
jgarozzo says:
+1!
Posted 5 years ago
hanli says:
Yes please! This would be so very useful. If a pro feature, I wouldn't hesitate for a second.
Posted 5 years ago
jeffersonkg says:
I absolutely agree that this feature is required. [+1]

Hey it's help a lot of! Sublists is better than puts the tags, and the preview would be more enjoyable.

Congratulations for your great work! I'm loving it!
Posted 5 years ago
woowaabob says:
+1
Posted 5 years ago
ianthevanbelzen says:
+1;
This is a better idea then subtasks to keep the interface clean.
Posted 5 years ago
martin.mares says:
+1
I agree... "this is a better idea then subtasks to keep the interface clean".
Posted 5 years ago
chrisroppola says:
+ 1 . Agree as well, sublists before sub tasks.
Posted 5 years ago
sylvain.boureliou says:
+1
Posted 5 years ago
mark.r.stoneman says:
I cluster related lists by using prefixes for lists that are part of a bigger thing. Simple, and works on whatever device I'm using.
Posted 5 years ago
heppa says:
+1
Posted 5 years ago
anotherdamndj says:
Three years of people asking for the same thing? that is crazy
Posted 5 years ago
eric.chapman says:
+1
Posted 5 years ago
alejandro84 says:
+1. totally required
Posted 5 years ago
drsimcha says:
IMO sublists are one of the few features missing in an othwise awesome application. Sublists would expand the ability to use RTM for a much wider variety and number of more complex tasks
Posted 5 years ago
black.puppydog says:
I'm trying to implement the getting thingy done method with rtm and this is the feature which I'm missing most. In gtd you make a lot of lists as you go so especially on the Droid things get really messy.
Posted 4 years ago
vamshikk says:
This is easily implementable with a tag. Please use tags.
Posted 4 years ago
lucasmocellin says:
+1
Posted 4 years ago
awww says:
+1 sublists required
Posted 4 years ago
rahathuq says:
I just don't understand how sublists haven't been implemented yet. Seems like an obvious necessity.
Posted 4 years ago
bicer says:
Probably the biggest missing feature in RTM. Please implement and don't make seasoned "paying" RTM users feel that they are lacking this important capability.
Posted 4 years ago
isaacpei says:
sub-list is definitely needed. maybe as step 1, just allow a first level of sub list?
ideally, it could support n numbers of sublist
Posted 4 years ago
adzio says:
yes sublists would help a lot! Please implement it!
Posted 4 years ago
maxjmaass says:
The lack of sublists is one of the things that keeps me from using RTM as my full-time Todo list application. I'll even get Premium for it, if I have to.
Posted 4 years ago
jcollado says:
This will also be very useful as an alternative to listContains search operator:
https://www.rememberthemilk.com/forums/ideas/5704/

The thing is that following the advice to apply GTD with RTM:
http://blog.rememberthemilk.com/2008/05/guest-post-advanced-gtd-with-remember.html

ends up in multiple lists that are related by prefix name (ps: personal, wk: work). However, if it could be possible to have a "Personal" folder and a "Work" folder it would be pretty easy to find all personal/work tasks that match a criteria looking into the folder (assuming that searching in a folder is the same as searching in all the lists that it includes).

Note that since lists are being created/archived/deleted as small projects start/finish, it's a little bit painful to keep the search criteria up-to-date for all the smartlists while this folder idea will make things much easier (even if only one level is allowed, that is, folders can only include lists, not other folders).
Posted 4 years ago
kearab says:
+1 pleeeeaseeee!
Posted 4 years ago
mr.louis says:
+1
Posted 3 years ago
georgedolbier says:
Sublists or Sub tasks, need drag and drop orginization
Posted 3 years ago
nadine.dyck says:
+1
Posted 3 years ago
muliady.hartono says:
+1 Please allow manual ordering of list and sub-list.

Also ability to hide sub-lists.
Posted 3 years ago
nicolascarre says:
+1 I'm starting with RTM and I'm not sure to get THE tool because I don't have this sub list feature.
It's important for me to be able organize my lists (personal ones, work, context for meeting preparation, sub projects, ...)
Posted 3 years ago
eyankowitz says:
Would love to see nest/sub list support.
Posted 3 years ago
jacobw11 says:
Love the idea of nest/ sub lists
Posted 3 years ago
yasser.laariba says:
+1 sublist is a must!!
Posted 2 years ago
jchediak says:
+ 1
Posted 2 years ago
rrrichard says:
+1
This would make RTM better!
Posted 2 years ago
brinkburn says:
Sublist would increase the flexibility of a very flexible product.
Posted 2 years ago
bbrott says:
I don't see that this has been created yet. I also need sublists. Thanks!
Posted 1 year ago
kakaxa says:
Very needed!
Posted 1 year ago
rolfwinch says:
Another vote for sublists - IMHO, a very necessary feature for serious organizers. This feature has been requested by users for over 7 years now . . . is there a reason why it hasn't yet been added? Is it difficult to implement from a technical perspective?

Some sort of answer would be useful from the good folks at RTM. I'm a Pro user, but beginning to look for alternatives to RTM that have this ability.

Come on, Bob the Monkey - you can do this! ;-)
Posted 1 year ago
rolfwinch says:
For example, check out workflowy.com. Simple, intuitive and easy to use . . . and, with sublists !!
Posted 1 year ago
kredit says:
+1, if you cant pick up the rythm, - sorry to say - but I'll change to Todoist
Posted 11 months ago
doulf says:
Yes this feature is missing for a good project management. A huge missing feature.
Tanks Bob !
Posted 9 months ago
zeniten says:
I want sublists too!
Posted 6 months ago
merte says:
You could call it folders for lists to, as long as there is a way of putting multiple lists into a group
Posted 6 months ago
dbh13 says:
Yes. I find that the more I use RTM, the more unwieldy the sidebar becomes and I really want to clean it up by grouping sublists into lists.
Posted 5 months ago
mdevitt says:
Essential. When I used RTM way back in 2009 I requested this feature. It's bizarre with the new version they neglected to include sub folders.

Anywho +1
Posted 5 months ago
codefox says:
Adding my voice to this too. I have around 50 lists and a lot of them are commons groups. I could get around this by using Tasks & Subtasks but with Smart Lists, you can't group by parent task so the subtasks don't show up clearly as to what project they're in.

Sublists seems like such an easy addition!
Posted 4 months ago
newsfreak says:
That's definitely a must have. For my GTD workflow all tasks that need more than 1 step will be put on a seperate project list. Lot's of lists will clutter the Sidebar if there's no possibility to group them in folders.
Posted 10 weeks ago
werner.peter says:
+1
I'm just searching a new tool (like todoist) only because RTM does not have sub-lists.
Posted 19 days ago
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