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It's nice when you can use for a tag a symbol that needs no explaining, ain't it ?
Also, prefixing tags with symbols allows you to group them in nifty ways.
Good (great indeed) things is, RTM allows you to use a plethora of special symbols in your tags, believe it or not. Strangely, and controversaly, symbols such as / \ ( ) [ ] = are not supported for tags.
For instance, take a look at the site below:
http://tunes.org/wiki/html_20special_20characters_20and_20symbols.html
I particularly like this website for the easy acess to information, and because the characters are pretty much in sort order, give or take a few positions for some.
Some useful examples:
√ ← ↑ → ↓ ↔ ↵ ⇐ ⇑ ⇒ ⇓ ⇔ • — ⋅² ³
More detailed examples:
I'm preceding all GTD core lists (projects, actions, wf, someday/maybe) with a '√'
One great symbol for getting a group of tags to the bottom of the tag box is '⋅', for being small, inobtrusive, and low on the ascii chart sort order.
I just replaced many tags I had, grouping them with a tag that fits onto the group purpose well. To do that, I select the old tag in the tagbox, select all with 'a', then multi-edit ('m') adding the new tag after the Multiple (don't delete that in the process!). Then, to completely erase the old tag, I use the Tag2Location tool:
http://www.rememberthemilk.com/forums/ideas/2744/ (link + some thoughts)
Hope it helps people in their complex GTD undertakings, and other organizational models =)
Posted at 1:08am on September 8, 2007
This looks great!
I wonder though how you can enter those characters in quickly with your keyboard. I have been using § to put some things at the bottoms of lists (on both tags and tasks), but that's mostly due to the fact that it's directly accessible on my keyboard. Your symbols are way cooler.
If I could enter those in quickly, I would love to adopt this system. It's very classy!
Posted at 1:52am on September 8, 2007
Well, for the most common things I also use easy acess symbols (. - + _ @).
I'm using these for some static things (i.e. list that I create and leave them be), and for some special systems that won't overlap with others.
What I mean is, to add a tag with a weird symbol, I can click it in the tagbox and create the task, easily inheriting the property. But if I had to add more than one strange symbol tag, it wouldn't be so practical anymore.
I'm sure there are some hacks, some wich could turn being very practical, others not that much. You could keep a task in some list (ref for example), with all symbols you use. That's maybe not very appealing, but it works across computers. If you're always on the same machine, some software or firefox extension for easy typing would probably be the best route.
Posted at 2:10am on September 8, 2007
If you don't want to leave the keyboard, you could probably go a long way by doubling symbols, like \\ or combining them with other symbols , like \: or even with numbers \5 or letters \p.
I guess the key is to REMEMBER what those weird suckers stand for :-)
Posted at 5:17pm on October 9, 2007
An issue you will find there, carib, is that most common keyboard symbols aren't usable for tags. At least not in my experience, and I have no idea why.
No-brainers such as #, *, &, =, %, !, $, (, [, {, :, / and so on will not be recognized for a tag after you type it.
For usable symbols that you can find on you keyboard, you only have a few (aside from the ones I use, I think there's only the comma).
Strange symbols, on the other hand, are 95% usable. So there are dozens, if not hundreds of cool symbols to use in tags, yet you can't easily type them. It's a tough choice.
Posted at 12:50am on October 11, 2007
Aww, I set up a bunch of my tags to use special characters, and they've all been replaced by question marks in boxes. I've went back to combinations of "ordinary" special symbols....
hmm, weird, the list in the original post is also mostly replaced by question marks in boxes. I wonder what happened...!
-Crystal
Posted at 5:40pm on October 16, 2007
Wow, Cryatal, I'm sorry to hear that. Maybe they tweaked RTM's innards and removed that capability.
As a consolation prize, you can still use symbols in task tiles such as " % buy milk". Doubled symbols work there too.
you can use ### for projects, ## for sub projects, and # for tasks. You can search for these symbols too . Just put "^" in the query box, and it will return that result.
You can even combine symbols with numbers and letters if you like (-5, =a).
I even tried a couple special symbols, like ±, and they seemed to work.
So try your scheme with symbols in task titles. there are enough combinations available there that you could build the most geeky scheme imaginable! :-)
Posted at 12:40am on October 17, 2007
what probably happened there, crystal, is your current system/browser doesn't support special characters. I can't see another reason, since I can still see those both in the orginal post and in my RTM account.
Posted at 10:45pm on October 17, 2007
Yeah, I don't know what happened, but I switched to characters I could always see, and I'm happy with my setup now. The symbols weren't showing up right on my mobile phone either, and were awkward to use from the keyboard, making the whole idea too cumbersome. It's never good to spend more time fiddling than actually doing stuff. Lesson learned, yet again! ;)
Posted at 3:58pm on October 24, 2007
